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Witnere's avatar design seems to pop up on war game sites several times, though I've no idea where it originated.
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 04:32 PM
"Physically she is also cast in that pure Anglo-Saxon mould which, as I have said, has made and still makes the people of the English Midland valleys the best-looking in England, perhaps in Europe. The Girls here are renowned for their good looks and my mother, in the days when girls really dressed like girls and looked like flowers, was one of them. I see all the special features of that fine Anglo-Saxon type not only in her but repeated also in my wife, my daughters and my grand daughters: the delicate bones, the fine soft skin, the blue eyes, the fair, light textured hair..."
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- English author H.E. Bates, describing his mother - taken from the second part (The Blossoming World) of his three-part autobiography.
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Posted 21 November 2009 - 09:38 PM
The Mr.Flag version could also be described as 'rampant' in stance, and for me looks a little better designed than the other rampant style. It's sort of half way between 'my' version, and the 'SN' rampant version. I think it's a good compromise. I humbly suggest we use that version if I may be so bold. 
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 11:49 AM
"Physically she is also cast in that pure Anglo-Saxon mould which, as I have said, has made and still makes the people of the English Midland valleys the best-looking in England, perhaps in Europe. The Girls here are renowned for their good looks and my mother, in the days when girls really dressed like girls and looked like flowers, was one of them. I see all the special features of that fine Anglo-Saxon type not only in her but repeated also in my wife, my daughters and my grand daughters: the delicate bones, the fine soft skin, the blue eyes, the fair, light textured hair..."
- English author H.E. Bates, describing his mother - taken from the second part (The Blossoming World) of his three-part autobiography.
The Vanished World Of H.E. Bates
- English author H.E. Bates, describing his mother - taken from the second part (The Blossoming World) of his three-part autobiography.
The Vanished World Of H.E. Bates
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 12:09 PM
Yes that's it! If I couldn't see my preferred version being adopted that's the one I'd suggest. Maybe make the dragon a little bigger, but otherwise that's about right to me. Nice shade of red too.
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And to implement a systematic denial that a particular people even exist is just about the worst form of racism there is."-John Lovejoy
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And to implement a systematic denial that a particular people even exist is just about the worst form of racism there is."-John Lovejoy
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 12:20 PM
Woden, on 22 November 2009 - 11:49 AM, said:
This is the best white dragon flag i have seen so far
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 12:27 PM
ENGLAND OUR LOVE FOR YOU WILL GIVE US THE STRENGTH TO FIGHT THIS NEW INVASION
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 05:41 PM
randwulf the middle saxon, on 22 November 2009 - 12:20 PM, said:
This is the best white dragon flag i have seen so far
I'm being dense, sorry. Which one?
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 07:22 PM
Witnere, on 22 November 2009 - 05:41 PM, said:
I'm being dense, sorry. Which one?
Sorry witnere,the wessex white dragon flag,but yours is good too.
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Posted 22 November 2009 - 09:32 PM
Yes the white Wessex one is good. I think it's the best compromise, and a good design on it's own merit. I think we're coming to a consensus here.
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And to implement a systematic denial that a particular people even exist is just about the worst form of racism there is."-John Lovejoy
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Posted 23 November 2009 - 09:31 AM
Witnere, on 22 November 2009 - 09:32 PM, said:
Yes the white Wessex one is good. I think it's the best compromise, and a good design on it's own merit. I think we're coming to a consensus here.
I had a look on the PONTO site and was not keen on that design. I agree with the Wessex white dragon design. Best one I have seen so far.
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Posted 24 November 2009 - 01:40 PM
SN Admin, on 21 November 2009 - 03:07 PM, said:
I don't like the Ponto version to be honest. The rampant version I like because it was one of the first out there in the public eye and seems to be the standard so far. The one on your avatar Witnere I also like, however I have never been able to trace it back to where it was designed etc. Can someone provide solid information as to where it was designed etc?
China?
Everyone agrees we need something distinctively our own. So if derivative is wrong why go oriental? And this IS oriental: LOSTE, Witnere, Penda - all have emblems that betray the same stylistic origins. The Ponto version is childish - worse than the stumbling drunk.
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". . . And so the population was gradually led into the demoralizing temptations of arcades, baths, and sumptuous banquets. The unsuspecting Britons spoke of such novelties as 'civilization', when in fact they were only a feature of their enslavement." — Tacitus, Agricola, 21
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 02:15 PM
With regard to the heraldic version of the white dragon, take a look now here, this online store now sell some really good items in the traditional design–
WD BADGE –
http://www.theenglan..._id=00287&xm=on
WD FLAG
http://www.theenglan...0293&name=Saxon White Dragon Flag&xm=on
WD PATCH (see last design)
http://www.theenglan...product=Patches
Also St Edmund Flags
http://www.theenglan...nt_Edmund&xm=on
WD BADGE –
http://www.theenglan..._id=00287&xm=on
WD FLAG
http://www.theenglan...0293&name=Saxon White Dragon Flag&xm=on
WD PATCH (see last design)
http://www.theenglan...product=Patches
Also St Edmund Flags
http://www.theenglan...nt_Edmund&xm=on
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 02:22 PM
The St Edmund Association has now gone into discussions with the LOSTE and it is hoped to join forces shortly.
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The parent organisation of the SEA is the Old English Order and is described as –
The Old English Order is for the restoration of our Saxon founders, the furtherance of Old England and its ancient Anglo Saxon heredity. The lost kingdoms of our true Anglian forefathers can at last be revived or at least redeemed.
OEO proposes “cultural preservation” and restoration of the true English identity long forgotten after 1066. England needs reminding of how our present national flag was once the emblem of a conquering oppressor, the Papal Cross piously granted to William of Normandy to devastate England in that fateful year.
The nation of east Britannia still struggles for its identity whilst its neighbours freely promote theirs with confidence. Whilst the Order has no quarrel with our Celtic islanders, the descendents of Wodensfolk need awareness of their true heritage upon the spiritual land of Harold Godwinson
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Support welcome………………..
SEA
www.stedmund.info
The parent organisation of the SEA is the Old English Order and is described as –
The Old English Order is for the restoration of our Saxon founders, the furtherance of Old England and its ancient Anglo Saxon heredity. The lost kingdoms of our true Anglian forefathers can at last be revived or at least redeemed.
OEO proposes “cultural preservation” and restoration of the true English identity long forgotten after 1066. England needs reminding of how our present national flag was once the emblem of a conquering oppressor, the Papal Cross piously granted to William of Normandy to devastate England in that fateful year.
The nation of east Britannia still struggles for its identity whilst its neighbours freely promote theirs with confidence. Whilst the Order has no quarrel with our Celtic islanders, the descendents of Wodensfolk need awareness of their true heritage upon the spiritual land of Harold Godwinson
Old English Order ©2002
"There is a need that each of us should understand where they came from, what they are and what will become of them"
Wulfstan, Archbishop of York
1000 years ago.
OEO Link - http://groups.yahoo...._English_Order/
Support welcome………………..